Final update on the "Cure
playing Bestival" rumor. No surprise after Rob Da Bank's comments a few weeks
ago, but RS makes it 100% official - no Cure at Bestival 2007.
Here's the translation of
that article in La Nacion a few days ago:
"I hate to write something on this site that isn't 100% confirmed...but
well, I’m having one of those days where I can tell you that I’d be
very surprised if The Cure didn't return to South America by the end of
this year to play a show." Robert Smith wrote these words on the band's
official site (thecure.com), from Miami, soon after he was consulted by
LA NACION regarding his future actions, and lit the wick. The leader of
The Cure reunited his group of all his life and, this year, he will embark
in something similar to a world tour [there are already confirmed shows
in Japan, Australia, and New Zealand, to begin in July], that could lead
to Buenos Aires 20 years after his chaotic and only visit to the country
[see photo].
Since then, rumors regarding a return of the group to Argentina
have been happening with every new world tour. The producer Daniel Grinbank
[who brought them last time] assures that he's tried to convince them
to come back many times: "Last year they went to Mexico and other Central
American countries (Obviously false, as the band
only played one show last year and that was in England. - Craig)
, but they didn't accept our proposal to play here - says the impresario
-. Now, we have once more offered them a tour through Chile, Brazil, and
Argentina, but everything is stopped until they determine the release date
of the new album. They know they have a carpet full of proposals from our
industry, CAA".
The return of the band on the scene [yesterday they had their
first concert of 2007, at the Ultra Music Festival that occurs annually
in Miami] comes at a time when the work of The Cure seems to reevaluate
itself, with tributes, homages, and notifications. Three buttons very
different serve as examples:
1. Korn, the most popular New Metal group in the past years,
finished work on a Unplugged CD and invited Mr. Smith to participate
one of the songs. Jonathan Davis and Robert Smith sing a duet in which
they fuse Korn's "Make Me Bad", with The Cure's "In Between Days".
2. The latest work from the electronic duo Faithless, To All
New Arrivals, includes “Spiders, Crocodiles, & Kryptonite”, of
which refrain will remix the charming verses of “Lullaby”, of The Cure,
rerecorded especially by Robert Smith.
3. Thousands of kilometers south, the new album of Pequeña
Orquesta Reincidentes, Capricho, was presented this past weekend in
Buenos Aires. Along with other covers on this disc, it includes a melancholic
track, “A Night Like This”, of The Cure.
As if to confirm that The Cure’s return was “the 80’s return
that was missing”, it could be mentioned that the official trailer
to the film Marie Antoinette, of Sofia Coppola, was sound tracked with
the song “Plainsong”, recorded by the band in 1989, for their album
Disintegration; that in the past months Robert Smith recorded vocals
in the solo productions of Steve Hewitt [drummer of the group Placebo]
and Paul Hartnoll [of Orbital]; that The Cure will participate on the
John Lennon tribute album, Instant Karma, that will be edited the following
month and in which R.E.M., U2, Black Eyed Peas and Green Day, among other
artists participated. And last, that Smith offered some clues in two
recent interviews regarding how the group’s new album will be, successor
of The Cure [2004], that will possibly be released before the end of
the year.
“We began to record the middle of last year and we finished
33 songs – the composer, singer, and guitarist told RAG magazine -.
At one point, I even thought it could be a double album with some instrumentals.
But when I told the rest of the band and the record company, they didn’t
appear to be too enthusiastic with the idea. That’s why I’m thinking
that it could be an album with two phases: an album that is released
normally and the other, possibly, could be downloaded on the Internet.
I don’t know, that’s the idea I have at this moment.”
With the definitive return of the guitarist Porl Thompson [the
band consists of Simon Gallup on bass, and Jason Cooper on drums],
Smith assured that the album will be not be based on keyboards [fundamental
instrument in the discography of The Cure] as in other times. “The return
of Prol makes me remember the period of Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me [1987],
Disintegration [1989], and Wish [1992]. We have included a keyboardist
in the study, but he was used very few times, in a case prompt but nothing
more”, he remarked.
And back to the official site of the group, Robert Smith concludes
his message for his South American fans this way: “With things being
that way…you will have more new when it happens of course. RSX”.
- Sebastián Ramos
(Thanks to Andy for the translation)
New Zealand wants The Cure:
"I know as always its likely a long
shot with these petitions but I was wondering if you could give us
a mention on your site! We have just started the petition up and hope
to draw Robert and Co's attention to their lovely deprived NZ fans...
the address is http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/CureTourNZ07/"
(Thanks Alastair)
Curespotting:
"Just wanted to let you know that
Blake Lewis did a cover of The Cure's Lovesong on tonight's episode
of American Idol on the FOX network in the US."
(Thanks DSC, Beachy and CureChicago)
"I am a french fan, sorry if I make
mistakes in English language.
I talk about my passion for The Cure on french TV channel M6
in a television report of the TV show "Nouvelle Star" ( french Pop
Idol / American Idol ) and I explained why I like the kazoo ;-)
"I was just looking at some Cure music
videos, and suddenly saw a link to this => http://www.veoh.com/videos/e168141GH86az2T?searchId=6683837400754054450&rank=6
<= little movie... It's called "The Cure Cocktail", and apparently
was a submission for some kind of cocktail contest. I've honestly got
no clue if it's named so after the band we all love, but it sure would
be good fun! I'm running out, gonna buy myself all the needed ingredients...
:) "
(Thanks Laurent)
March 25th
Cure article in La Nacion:
"Today, in the newspaper La Nacion,
There is a special note about, again, a possible visit of The Cure to
Southamerica....
Include a little interview with Daniel Grinbank (the guy behind
the 1987 visit of The Cure to Argentina and Southamerica, and possibly
of the "this
year" visit). Here is a link to LaNacion.com;
I hope someone could translate something.... You know, I can't do it.........
Also in the note of the La Nacion newspaper says: Robert
Smith will collaborate with vocals in the new solo album of Steve
Hewitt (Placebo)..."
(Thanks Beto)
Guys, come on, I've been doing
this for almost 11 years now (pretty sad huh?). I never post the setlist,
reviews, etc. on the news page. Each show gets it's own page, and that's
where stuff like that gets posted. The Miami show info is here. You can
always find out what sections have been updated by checking the front page.
If you missed Roger's appearance
at the Apple Store in London on March 20th, you can watch a couple
of clips here
and here. Also,
check out Roger's interview with FXpansion
and the new Apple version of 'Treasure' at Roger's Myspace page.
Curespotting:
"I found this record store on Collins
Avenue/5th Street in Miami Beach advertizing the Cure at the Ultra
Festival with the 'Join The Dots' and the
Head on the Door/The Top Deluxe covers. I admit the pics aren't
the best but I've never seen a record store in my region advertizing
that nicely with a whole shop window both for a gig and new cds.
What's was even more teasing was a plane pulling an ad with
the message 'Ultra Festival ... CURE' along the beach the wohle day
(seen on 17th
March)."
(Thanks Christian)
March 23rd
For those of you heading to
the Ultra fest tonight, please note that the official site says The
Cure will be playing from 7:30-9:30pm. So get there early and have a
great time! And please don't forget to send in your reviews, photos
and the setlist. Thanks!
New interview with RS in the
Miami Herald:
The Cure plays tonight at Ultra
BY MICHAEL HAMERSLY
mhamersly@MiamiHerald.com
* Winter Music Conference best bets
Judging from his all-black get-ups, gloom-and-doom lyrics
and songs with titles such as The Hanging Garden, Torture and Disintegration,
fans might expect Robert Smith to come off as surly and withdrawn.
But the iconic lead singer of The Cure -- the hugely influential
British band that evolved from the post-punk Gothic-rock scene of
the early '80s into creating poetic pop-rock soundscapes with swirling
layers of guitar and keyboards -- is downright jovial, at times almost
bubbling over in a pleasingly self-deprecating stream-of-consciousness,
muttering and stammering along like Hugh Grant in a romantic comedy.
Smith says The Cure might have some surprises in store when
it headlines the dance music-heavy Ultra Music Festival tonight at
Bayfront Park in downtown Miami. He talked to The Miami Herald about
his life and the band.
Q: How do you feel your music fits in with a festival that's
so heavily dominated by dance music and DJs?
A: I've been thinking about this on and off since we agreed
to do it. There's been a connection between The Cure and dance as a
genre in its various forms throughout the years, probably starting with
Let's Go To Bed in 1983, and that was kind of the advent of the 12'' single.
This connection between us and the more modern dance movement
probably stemmed, I think, from Paul Oakenfold's remix of Lullaby in
1989 and it got massive play on Ibiza. And at that time, very few people
even knew what Ibiza was -- you know, it was an island somewhere. It
didn't really have the cultural significance it does now.
And the reason why we did the Mixed Up album is because we
got this idea that there were lots of people playing Cure music at
raves, and this whole kind of movement was kicking up -- and I just
really loved what I was hearing.
We did the Mixed Up album on the back of that, using a lot
of remixes that we'd done and sending stuff out to be remixed. We
were completely hammered for it -- we were slayed by the press, and
a lot of fans were a bit disturbed by that release. They wondered what
we were doing: Was this the start of something horrible?
But I loved it. At the time, I said in interviews, ''This
is the only Cure album I can listen to,'' and I was being truthful,
because it was like someone else had made a Cure album. I could kick back
and listen to The Cure and it had nothing to do with me. It just appealed
to me.
Q: What can we expect from The Cure's show at Ultra?
A: We want this Miami thing to be special, that won't be
like anything else we've done, and probably won't be like anything
we will do. So we're trying to create a two-hour show that reflects
the fact that we're in Miami playing a dance festival. And we've hit
kind of a wall, because we're unsure within the band whether we should
try to reflect what [DJs] do onstage -- a dance set.
Or should we play a Cure set comprised of songs such as Pictures
Of You and Lullaby in their Cure form, to have some kind of musical
relief from what's going on in the other 48 hours? It's a tricky one.
I like the idea of perhaps putting some songs back in the
set that we haven't done for awhile, some of the more upbeat, immediate
stuff.
Q: So many of your songs are about romantic relationships
-- some sweet, some dysfunctional. How much of that is based on your
own experiences?
A: A lot of the songs I've written -- in fact, most of them
-- are written from experience. Some of them are more honest than others.
Some of them -- I take situations and I kind of do a ''what-if'' in
my head.
Q: You have a reputation as this mopey, rainy day persona,
but you seem just the opposite. What's the story?
A: I've led a charmed life, pretty much. I can't believe
that I've been able to do pretty much everything I've ever wanted to
do. But when I was younger, looking back, I think perhaps unknowingly
I engineered situations where I would endure pain [laughs]. I think
that's what young people do sometimes -- just to see what it feels
like. I tend to do things now that I hope I'd enjoy.
There are places inside my head that are still quite dark.
I'm really lucky in the life that I'm able to lead, but I still have
huge unresolved dilemmas about life and what goes on in the world.
As a personality, I think I'm a bit fractured: I've got two
very distinct sides to me and one of them is unpleasant, which I try
to keep in check. But it works for the band.
Q: Do you have a preference between the lighter or darker
side of The Cure?
A: I am drawn, much more so, to the more emotional, darker
stuff. I think the really bright poppy stuff, when it works, is really
good and it makes the band more interesting. But there's another part
of The Cure, which is a more wistful or slightly melancholic or happy/sad
kind of thing, which I like and has drawn a lot fo people into The Cure
-- like Pictures Of You. It's not a terribly sad song on first listen
-- it's not obviously end-of-the-world stuff -- but at that time in my
life I was kind of laying bare things that were probably better left
unsaid. It caused an awful lot of upset in my own life; it's the price
you pay for writing songs that are genuinely emotional.
Q: Do you consider yourself a romantic ?
A: I would like to be. I don't really know whether I am or
not. I find myself at times, you know, howling at the moon; other
times I can't believe how untouched I am and how disconnected I feel.
But I haven't really closed down as I've gotten older. If
anything, I've gotten worse, I suppose. I've become more tearful [laughs],
but I think that's just old age creeping in. I'll find myself in tears
watching a cat food commercial -- it's madness, really.
Q: It took a few albums for The Cure to have much commercial
success. How important was it for you to finally have ``hits''?
A: With hindsight, it was crucial to the band. The first
album, [1979's] Three Imaginary Boys, was a weird collection of stuff
we were doing out of school, and it was quirky and I wasn't really
convinced by it, so I didn't expect anyone else to be.
[Later], when I was being pushed as kind of this idiot lead
character doing The Walk and Lovecats and stuff, I went along with
it.
But it was much more important to me to make albums that
contained songs that had genuine emotion in them. The singles almost
used to trick people into listening -- they were the lure.
Q: How long will The Cure keep it up?
A: I don't ever think about it anymore. I used to make these
pronouncements -- you know, ''That's it!'' But we're just at the
point now I'm finishing vocals and mixing on a new record. [And]
we are scheduling shows starting in late summer that will run through
to Christmas, so this year we are gonna be quite active. Beyond that,
it really depends on what my physical and mental health is like come
Christmas.
(Thanks Creighton)
'Da Hype', Blink 182, Korn
and now Ashlee Simpson?!?! Here's the (hopefully inaccurate) story
from Entertainment
Weekly:
JUST LIKE HEAVEN?
The Cure's Smith and Simpson will try to make some beautiful
music together, according to her dad, Joe
By Leah Greenblatt
What happens in Austin, stays in Austin? Not when it's new-album
news about Ashlee Simpson, straight from the horse's mouth! (Or, more
accurately, the mouth of the horse's dad-slash-manager). At a late-night
SXSW showcase by Ethiopian-born alt-pop artist Kenna, two of EW's intrepid
reporters spotted Simpson père Joe, who filled us in on his daughter's
plans for her upcoming 2007 release. The album involves Kenna (whose
own album is due this June) and his buddy and producer Chad Hugo — a.k.a.,
the member of production über-duo the Neptunes who is not Pharrell
Williams.
Mr. Simpson tells us Ashlee, Chad, and Kenna were in the
studio writing songs earlier this month, and that she's also working
with Timbaland, John Legend, and Tim Rice-Oxley of Brit sensations Keane,
who teamed up with Gwen Stefani on ''Lonely Winter,'' one of the strongest,
most reflective tracks on her recent Sweet Escape album.
The bigger shocker? Ashlee's also reportedly collaborating
with Robert Smith. Yes, as in the legendary frontman of Alternative
Nation icons the Cure. Could their mutual buddy, Fall Out Boy's Pete
Wentz, be the connection? When asked by our west-coast counterpart
Shirley Halperin, Wentz demurred. ''I doubt I had anything to do with
it, 'cause they were friends since she was performing in Chicago [in
London last year]. But I definitely only have good things to say about
Ash — I think the collaboration could be great!'' Indeed; whatever
these two Lovecats come up with, it's bound to be interesting!
(Thanks Kevin and K)
Cure party in Mexico:
"We have a Cure Night in Mexico
City,
A MEASURE OF LIFE
Date: April 21th, 2007
Tribute Band: Escarlata
In the music: DJ. Robas Marca Diablo from (www.theendoftheworld.fr.st)
Place: Saccro Centro Cultural - Rep. de Uruguay No. 52,
Col. Centro
Amnesty International will
release 'Instant Karma: The Campain To Save Darfur' on June 12th.
The cd will include more than 20 John Lennon covers, including The
Cure's version of 'Love' (recorded back in 2005 and still available
for download).
For more info, check out the AI website.
Side-Line has an
article about the RS/Paul Hartnoll collaboration.
(Thanks Peter)
Cure Drink in Brasil:
"The Brasilian town of Porto Alegre
will have its first CURE DRINK next Friday, March 23 at the Joy Division
Bar. The happening will celebrate
the 20th anniversary of the Cure shows in this city. (
21 / 22 of March, 1987 ).
It's being produced by Alfio Martini and Luciano Dias,
and will feature the TRILOGY and FESTIVAL DVDs on the big screen,
a pocket show of the
band Substance, and lots and lots of Cure songs all night
long."
(Thanks Antonio)
March 19th
An update on that "Cure playing
Bestival" rumor - on the festival message
board, Rob Da Bank (festival producer) says The Cure ARE NOT
the headliner on sunday. Everyone is now saying it will be Madness.
I'll still keep an eye on it and let you know what happens.
Cure featured in Glastonbury
film (or maybe not):
"There's a new movie out called
"Glastonbury" that (from the looks of it) is a concert film of various
Glastonbury performances. The Cure are featured in it.
(I don't know what performance they're showing for them.) It's playing
at select theaters...
Update - "I went to
see this documentary at the outdoor cinema in Sydney specifically
to see the Cure. After 2 1/2 + hours, I saw short clips from every
other artist listed in the description except for the Cure. The film
was pretty weak, little to no interviews with artists and way too much
footage of drugged up hippies dancing around. Not sure if Australia
got some odd edit but there was no Cure in the version I watched. Beware!"
(Thanks
Matt and Jeff)
March 18th
The Cure finally return to
Japan!!! Hong Kong, Singapore and Australia too! Looks like it
really will be a WORLD tour this year. Here are the tentative dates
from the official site:
July 27th, 2007 - Japan (Fuji Rock Festival) Tickets are already
on sale.
July 30th, 2007 - Hong Kong
Aug. 1st, 2007 - Singapore
Aug. 2007 - Australia
"Robert Smith is on the
cover of the DJ Mag from the UK..its
a decent article which traces back The Cure's beginnings through
to their respect from the dance community to now headlining Ultrafest
in Miami. I briefly skimmed the article and can't recall
how much direct RS info there is. The issue is out now in the
UK/Europe and should make it to North America within a couple of
weeks."
(Thanks Midnight Blue)
Jeanette Landry (of The Glove)
interview::
"I have interviewed Ginette
Landray in the upcoming issue of Deathrock Magazine.
She talks about Robert, Steve Severin, the impact of The Glove,
and whether she would ever perform with The Glove again. Also, interesting
tidbit, she lives near Miami. . .and may be going to Ultra Music
Fest to say hello to an old friend."
Fascination Street
The Cure’s Robert Smith on Miami
Published: March 15, 2007
"Over the years, we've always had a great time
in Miami. The Cure has a really strong following there. When
we first started coming to America, we didn't play there for years,
because certain promoters told us that no one would like us in the
city. But when we did, the fans were really rabid and intense. It
was overwhelming and we were amazed by the reaction. Now we make
sure to play there on every American tour. A few years back, I spent
a few days in an achingly hip hotel right on the beach, a quite famous
one. I think it was the Tides. There was a jazz band and people rollerblading
outside. Everyone was beautiful and it really upset me [laughs]. The
combination of pretty people and sunshine really does something bad to
my self-esteem. I imagine the Cure would be a very different kind of band
if we'd originated in Miami."
Roger will be at the Apple
Store in London on March 20th:
"Hello everyone and my apologies for not sending
out a newsletter in such a long time ! This isnt going to be
much either I just wanted to let anyone know who might be in London
next week, March 20th to be precise that I will be doing one of my
Apple store performances. Its at the Apple store in the west end of
London on Regents Street and will be at 7pm, you don't need a ticket
just turn up. I will be performing two songs and describing the way
I use software to make music and videos and I will also do a question
and answer at the end. Look forward to seeing anyone who can make it
, love Roger
if you need directions there is a link to the
Apple store page on my website
in the news section...."
Cure party in Germany:
5th April 2007
Tanzbar Palette
Große Nikolaistr. 9-11
D-06108 Halle/Saale
Germany
Floor 1: Depeche Mode
Floor 2: Electro
Floor 3: The Cure (plus Joy Division Special)
Floor 4: 80s
(Thanks eboa)
March 11th
RAG magazine has a new interview with
RS in their March 2007 issue:
RAG Magazine's complete,
exclusive interview with Robert Smith
Read the Cure cover story in the March 2007
issue of RAG Magazine.
Interview by Monica Cady
RAG: What are you most
excited about right now regarding the Cure?
Robert Smith: It's been a strange period, really.
This is the first interview I've done in ages. I was thinking
that as I was dialing the number. Normally, you kind of get
into a groove with these sort of things, and sort of field questions.
I've been doing it long enough that I know how to do it.
But I haven't really thought about what we do in terms of summing
it up in an interview sense. It's quite weird to do it on the
fly.
We started recording a new album last summer.
We played a one-off show – similar to the one we are doing in
Miami – at Royal Albert Hall, last
April, for the Teenage Cancer Trust in London.
It was just before we were going into the studio because I wanted
to remind everyone, you know, part of the reason for doing it was
to remind ourselves of why we do it – the main reason was because
it was a good cause and it was a great opportunity to play Albert Hall.
We started recording, which kind of went on
and off through the summer. We ended up with 33 songs,
I think, by August. But interspersed with that were all
the re-released stuff. I've been putting together deluxe
double packages for all the Cure albums. I had to listen to everything
– all the old tapes and get all the extras together, and do the
booklets and stuff. It was kind of time consuming.
Alongside that, I started writing a book, kind
of like the official history of the Cure book. And then,
it was about August, a couple of people approached me, who had
been on the crew with us the previous year, when we had been playing
festival shows in 2005. They showed me some of the edits they
had done on some of the footage they got together, and played me some
of the live recordings and I thought, "Oh it would be okay.
Why not? Let's go for it and try to get a DVD done by Christmas."
But that was like a huge project. I didn't
realize. I thought I would kind of knock it over in a couple
of weeks, but we struggled to get it out before Christmas.
That went through November and took up pretty much every waking minute
for about two months. That knocked me back, because the rest
of the band were kind of waiting around for me to do vocals so
we could finish the album, because I had only done, sort of, guide
vocals.
We're now in the position where Christmas came
and went, and we're back in the studio. I'm finishing the
vocals and mixing the album, which should really have been done
last October. So everything has been sort of pushed back.
I think we're on the third push back now from when the album's going
to get released. I think people have generally sort of given
up putting a date on it. They are just waiting for me to say,
"Okay, it's done." And then we'll kind of fix a date.
The Miami show … we get lots of offers all the
time, and the others were very surprised that I accepted this,
but it's seemed like such an unusual thing to do. Because
the one-off at the Albert Hall last year worked really well. It kind
of kick-started everyone. I thought that if we set our sights on
playing Miami in March, it would give me kind of an [album release]
deadline that I had to stick to because we have to be ready to play.
We have to finish the new songs. If there is no deadline, I could
see myself going into this summer and picking up a couple of projects
along the way, and never really quite finishing [the album].
Just the idea of playing specifically a dance
festival is something that we've never done before, and I like
the band to experience new things – they are few and far between.
It's a great lineup. We're all now looking forward to it.
We just started, in fact, this week, thinking
about what set list we are going to put together because it's
going to be a one-off, it's not going to be a precursor to what we
do. Because we will be playing this year, but we won't be
starting until kind of late summer, and we'll be playing through
until Christmas, but that will be on the back of the new release.
And it will be our own show, and it will be something different.
This is much more to do with like the Cure's dance side, I suppose.
There's been a bit of conflict – actually, just within the last 48 hours
– in the band as to how dancey we should go.
There's a view that we've been – it's hard to
kind of put into words really – that there are quit a lot of
people in the dance community – producers and DJs – who really like
the Cure, but who like the Cure because of what we do, and they make
us dancey. We have become part of that [dance] culture because of
what we do, and I suspect if we try too hard to do what they (DJs, dance
music producers) do, then we'll kind of miss the point. It's almost
like we're approaching it, in that we're choosing a set list of songs
that we think sums up why the Cure appeals to the dance community.
But we're not really gonna go all out and try and put on a dance show.
So, it's a fine balance. It's nice that we're focusing on something
that's this odd. I suppose, in a way, because it's quite a bit
of work, just to do a one-off show, it makes the show that much more special,
which is the whole point of doing it.
I was really excited to
see that you were coming to Miami. The last time I saw
you was at Curiosa, which was amazing.
Yeah, that's like a totally different thing.
For me, personally, that was probably the best touring experience
I've ever had actually, because I loved what went on behind the
scenes. I just loved the camaraderie that developed on that
tour and the general sort of mayhem. I thought that as a band
we sometimes didn't rise to the occasion. I think a couple members
of the band were kind of tired of playing at that point. But
I, personally, really loved every second of it.
I saw your first show
of the tour in West Palm Beach.
I remember it like it was yesterday. (laughs)
Do you think you'll ever
do another Curiosa? That must have been a huge project.
Um, we were approached to do one. I said
I wouldn't do one the following year in 2005. We were approached
to do it last year, but I wanted to do a new record, so we turned
it down. It was suggested to us that we could kind of almost
continue it as a band kind of thing and get someone else to take
the lead slot. I figured that was sort of missing the point
really. I mean I wanted to be part of it. (laughs) The idea
wasn't to make money. It was for me to have an experience that
I would never otherwise have. It was a very selfish reason why
it was put together in the first place. It worked really well,
you know, commercially people were surprised by how well it did.
But that wasn't really the point. And to put another one together,
we've toyed with the idea for this year – over Christmas we kind of
talked to a few people – but at the end of the day, there's a very strong
sort of sense from
hardcore Cure fans around the world for us to
play our own shows, to play for longer. The one drawback
of doing something like Curiosa is
that the more bands you put on, the more interesting
it becomes generally, but the less time we have specifically
[to play]. And so therefore, it's almost like we have a cameo
performance, you know like 90 minutes or so, but never more than
two hours. For example, at Albert Hall last year we played just
over three hours. And it just flashes by because we really enjoyed
it. And I would like to do that this year. I would like
to play Cure shows, rather than … you know, I think we'll still take
a couple of bands with us when we come to America, but it won't be the
same thing with the two stages and the whole razzmatazz. But I
don't know, I never say, I mean maybe we would do it again. Maybe
we'll do it again next year. It's one of those things where, I
think if the right bands, sort of are there, the right feeling, I suppose
it's one of those things that probably could happen again.
What can you tell me about
the new music? What's gotten harder and what's gotten easier
with regard to writing songs over the years?
Well, it's always the words [that] are the hardest
part for me. The music, we could probably record 100 songs
a year, I should think; if we put our minds to it. The music
isn't really a problem. It is a lot harder for me to focus
this album, or has been, because of the return of Porl on guitar.
He's contributing such a different kind of musicality to the group.
And because we are all putting songs in the pot and saying, you know,
"What does this sound like?" We're trying lots of different
things. We've actually got such a breadth of different stuff.
I mean, stylistically it's kind of reminiscent of the Kiss Me album,
because there are so many different things going on.
At one point, I was thinking maybe [this could
be] a double album with some instrumentals, and being really,
really artsy. But after I talked it through with the rest
of the band, and primarily the record company (laughs), they weren't
very thrilled about a double album. [The label] think[s]
it's conceptually sound, but in the current climate, probably not
commercially viable. So, I'm thinking we'll probably do the
album in two stages. We'll have one [released], which is, in
and of itself, a thing. Then we'll probably have like another
kind of album, which will be a download album, and will complement the
main album. That's my thinking at the moment.
So I think the [songs on the] main album will
probably be more connected. It's really, really difficult
talking about new music. Because it does sound like us, but
it doesn't sound like us at any particular time. You can
definitely tell that Porl is back in the band, so it kind of reminds
me of the period of Kiss Me, Disintegration and Wish – just because
the mood within the band [shows that] Porl's character has come back.
We have got a keyboard in the studio, but it's
been used very, very sparingly. There are little touches
of piano, and little bits of noise here and there. But generally,
it's just a four-piece band. It's bass, two guitars and drums.
And it's quite stripped down. There's a lot more space in
what we're doing, but it's really a lot more powerful, in a funny
way. Because we've only been back in the studio for two weeks,
it seems like a long time ago that we played these songs.
It's almost as though they're old songs because I've been listening
to them since last July. It's amazing that they haven't leaked.
It's scary isn't it?
Yeah.
That's because I'm the only person in the world
that's got a set. (laughs)
Do you write lyrics every
day?
Since we released the last album, which was
mid-2004, I've got – I don't know how many pages – a box full
of words. I write just as a matter of course. I just
write thoughts. But I've never made myself kind of think,
"Now I'm writing. This could be something." Because
I think that would take away [from it]. It's almost like trying
too hard to remember your dreams. It becomes somehow a little
bit too intellectualized. I'll often read back on what I
wrote and just think, "Rubbish!" and tear it up and throw it away.
But at the time I'm writing, I know it doesn't have to be good, and
so therefore, it's a release. It's like playing guitar when
you're drunk. It always sounds bad the next day. (laughs)
But when we start doing a project, I look through
this box of words, and I start trying to match up words to music,
and sometimes it's very easy. Other times, it's not so easy
– particularly after all this time. I'm kind of 300 songs
in [at this point in my career]. It's difficult to try and
be genuinely excited about what I'm trying to say. I don't see
any point, really, in writing words so that we can make a record.
It's never made any sense. It was much easier when I was in my
20s, and I had only done like three or four albums. This is like
the 13th album along. But I'm not worried about it.
I think I did do an interview in the last six
months, and the interviewer took what I was saying [and made
it seem like] I was suffering from writer's block. And
I thought, "This is so wide off the mark." I've never understood
the concept of writer's block because if you haven't got anything
to say, then you haven't got anything to say. It has absolutely
nothing to do with trying to write.
I've got so many words. But it's one thing
to have sheets and sheets of words in front of you, and it's quite
another thing putting it together in a song. Unless you try
it, I don't think writers – that's basically journalists – struggle
to see the difference in just like writing a few words and actually
imagining yourself in front of a microphone, performing those words
and singing them. It's a totally different thing.
I've got an ongoing book, that's been going
on for years, of things that I think are quite good that I've
written, but I would never sing. I couldn't dream of singing
[them] because the words are wrong. They would sound ridiculous
if I sang them. But on paper, and when I read them to myself
in my head, I think they work quite well. So at some point,
I'll make that into a thing that will be totally separate. It'll
probably be about 600 pages long. (laughs) The stories of writer's
block will be knocked firmly on the head.
When you write lyrics
do you always write as yourself, or do you ever write through
the eyes of other characters?
No, well, if I was really honest, I think the
best songs that I've written are me singing, because I feel
better. They feel right. Probably some of the bigger
songs, or the most popular songs, aren't really me singing.
I don't limit myself to my own experiences. I try to write from
other people's point of view. I try to write from an imaginary
point of view. But often, I'll just come back to something much
simpler, and something I've written in that particular time when I
was feeling strongly about something. And they're usually the
songs that mean something to me.
I think it's the difference between writing
a song that has a lot of emotional content and writing a song
that's just a good song. The trick, I suppose, is making that good
song connect with people, and that's really hard. I think any singer
who kind of means what they sing – who doesn't just read the words off
a piece of paper – is trying to get inside the character. Writing
it is one thing; but actually trying to inhabit the character when you
perform it, is another. There are things that we do, where I'm
singing things that in my real life I wouldn't dream of saying or singing
about; but they're more, kind of, performance things. They sometimes
are the songs – when I listen back at our albums, which isn't that often,
but when we do the remasters – I think, that I meant, and I can think,
that one I don't think I was too sure about.
On the Kiss Me album, that was kind the first
time I tried to write from another perspective. I think
before then, everything I had written was from my point of view.
I think the Kiss Me album, in a lot of ways, was me trying out different
things and the band tried different styles. I tried
different ways of singing and different ways of writing. But
with Disintegration, I went back to my own point of view. And then
I tried a different thing again with the Wish album. So, I sometimes
incorporate it, but I would prefer it if I could write all the songs
from a kind of more heartfelt position because I just think they work
there – or they last longer, I think.
To what do you attribute
your longevity, and even your influence on so many new, younger
bands?
It's partly what we were just talking about.
I mean, I've met and gotten to know a few of the younger generations
of bands. I think that the one thing they all had in common
with regard to the Cure was that they enjoy the fact that we've kind
of hung around, and we've done what we wanted to do, and we've been
successful but we haven't courted that success. We've kind
of just forced our own path, and we've meant it. I think it's
that the perception is that we have done what we wanted to do, and even
if it had gone wrong, we wouldn't have changed what we did. I
think it's that any young band that's any good has to aspire to that
– anything else is just worthless. If you succeed on someone else's
turns, it might be great at that moment, but I suspect it's pretty short
lived. I mean the idea of being proud of what you do – whatever
you do – is far more important than the end result. The experience
of doing it is worth more than the end result, to be honest. [It's]
all of those things.
It is difficult to resist the temptation just
to become rubbish. So many bands as they grow a bit older,
they just get worse. It's a struggle, and, you know, life has
a tendency to take over. It's a terrible thing to resist [regular
life] entirely. You can't just like keep being in a band.
I mean there are a couple of older bands who sort of think all we
need to do is be in a band, whereas I like the idea of sort of balancing
playing music with other people and integrating into a more kind of
rounded life as you get older. I mean it would be awful for
me to feel as alienated and disturbed as I did when I was in my 20s,
at this stage in my life. I mean, I would be dead if I felt
like that. So, at the same time, when the Cure does do something,
I get so immersed in it, I feel like I felt when we did the very first
album. So nothing's really changed.
What do you do when you
are not focusing on music?
I've got a huge extended family, there are almost
40 of them. It's like uncles, aunts, nephews and nieces,
and brothers and sisters and stuff. I spend a lot of time
doing normal stuff but without the incumbents of a normal job basically.
I have the ideal life that people would like, in that my work is probably
the thing that I enjoy the most, and I do it when I feel like it.
I kind of go for walks, and I am trying to take up astronomy in a more
serious way over the last few years. I am trying to catch up
on a lot of things that I've missed on film and television over the
last few years when I've been on the road. I've been reading books
actually. That's been my biggest chore. I think I read
about 15 books in the last two months. And [I do] things that
seem really dull, but actually just sitting down and thinking, "I can
read until I finish this book and no one can interrupt me." It's
that kind of luxury that I really value still. It's something that
when I was in school I used to dream about – not being interrupted.
It's that part of what I do that I
enjoy the most.
Do you think people have
this misconception that you are sad and gloomy all the time because
some of your songs are melancholy?
Um, I think there was a misconception
for a long time. I don't think it's probably as bad now
because when we're (pauses) – that's a tricky one. (laughs)
The Cure still makes some pretty dark music. I mean there are
songs on this [next] album, which are among the darkest that we've ever
done. They reflect a part of my character that's still there,
that will never go away. I still am subject to incredible bouts
of depression, I suppose. But it's in the same way as pretty much
everyone I know who thinks about what's going on, is subject to those
kind of dark thoughts and dark moments.
I've always tried to work [my emotions] out
and into songs as music. Sometimes they work so well that other
people kind of feel that they're about themselves. It's
great when that happens because I think that's the reason why I'm
doing it. You know, if I was doing it for just myself, I wouldn't
bother recording the vocals. So, it's a wonderful thing when
that happens.
But, I suppose if there ever is a downside,
it's that then this perception starts to grow that that's who
I am. But I've always maintained that I'm just not very
good at writing happy songs. (laughs) It's really honestly as
simple as that. Occasionally I come up with a really good happy
song like "Mint Car" or something, and then I shock myself.
I think, "I'm genuinely happy in this song." But most of the
time when [the band is chatting, they] will say, "Let's do something
a little more upbeat," and I try it, and it just sounds awful.
(laughs) It sounds really insincere.
Last summer, when we recorded, it was the best
time that I've ever had in the studio - ever - like my whole life.
It was just such good fun. And yet, at the end of the day,
we would listen back to what we had done, and it would be incredibly
doom-laden. So it's a weird sort of dichotomy. The happier
we get as a band, kind of the gloomier the music gets. I think
it's one of those things where if we were really unhappy with what we
were doing, we would try and (pauses) – it's kind of what they say about
comedians being really tragic, you know, I suppose we must be pretty
happy. That's why we make miserable music.
But, all jokes aside, I think the reason that
perception has sort of dissolved a little bit or gone away is
because the Cure's work is now seen in a slightly different way.
[Especially with the remasters] it's kind of saying, "Well hang
on. We do songs like 'Mint Car' and all those pop singles."
It's kind of like the Miami show. We're being asked to do
that primarily because of the singles, not because of the permanent
epics, but that's a side of the band that I really enjoy.
There are so many different sides to the Cure
that it's very hard for us to think that everyone thinks, "Ah
there's that miserable bloke." There
are too many instances where I'm not that miserable
bloke. It doesn't really work. I think without that
really dark side, I don't think the Cure would be a very interesting
group.
Pete Wentz said that he
was too intimidated by you to say hello when you two rode an
elevator together. You're such an icon and I would imagine
a lot of fans might be too intimidated to talk to you. Do
fans approach you often?
Um, yeah, I think we've really been accessible.
Well, I haven't seen a lot of bands being in close proximity
to other bigger bands. I think we're pretty accessible.
I mean, certainly as people we are. It's sometimes hard
to be as accessible as fans want you to be because fans see you from
their point-of-view, whereas I see 500 people. One of those
500 people just sees me. Sometimes you can't probably be as
accessible as you would like to be because it's physically impossible.
You often see people sort of hanging back, and you're thinking,
"Go on, go on, take the step, I'm not going to bite you." The
more outgoing people are obviously the ones at the front of the cue,
kind of thing. But um, I mean we've always had really good rapport
with our fans. I mean, I hate talking about the fans because
we've gotten to know so many of them over the years that there are
actually a lot of them who are friends really, on first-name terms and
I have numbers in my phone of people who I first met backstage or outside.
So, you know, whenever I look at people, I don't look at them as fans.
I just look at them as people who enjoy the show. I know it seems
like a foolish distinction,
but it's kind of important. I would hate
to kind of take it for granted that people like the Cure just because
we're the Cure, you know, that
would be in a bad mistake.
So, you know, people being kind of worried about
what's going to happen if they say anything [to me] – actually,
they should be. (laughs) Be frightened to speak.
Tell me about your experience
with South Park. Do you keep in touch with Matt Stone
and Trey Parker?
Yeah, I saw them on the Curiosa tour.
We don't hang out. (laughs) It's kind of hard living on
the other side of the world. I still watch South Park.
I still think it's one of the best things on television actually.
It's excellent how they keeping pushing. I mean I think they've
been trying to get themselves taken off the air for the last three
years. They just haven't managed it yet. (laughs) It's
refreshing. They deal with subjects in their own way, which a
lot of people are kind of reluctant to touch. I think underlying
South Park, amidst all the idiot humor, there's always the part where they
say, "What have we learned? I've learned something today." I share
my enjoyment of it with my nephews and nieces. It's one of those bonding
things. Everyone kind of sits around and
rolls with laughter. When I was in [the South Park episode],
it was a career high for me.
Do you still wear MAC Ruby Woo?
You know, that's a good question. I have
no idea. I still wear MAC because they gave me a huge box
of stuff. (laughs) I have no reason to change. It
doesn't run on stage, which is what I really care about.
I'm not wearing make-up at the moment.
You do your own makeup
before you go onstage, right? You don't have someone do it for
you.
No, I always do it. I hate people touching
my face. It drives me mad.
A lot of fans probably
wonder whether you check your own MySpace page, or if it's a
record-label thing.
Ooooh, it's not a record label thing.
The thing about MySpace, last year, when we were in the studio,
we had a Cure MySpace page and then Geffen was doing it.
It was last spring. And I realized, I had been told by a couple
of people, that someone in particular was pretending to be me, and
people were being taken in by it. And they were getting e-mails
and stuff, and it was all getting a little bit unpleasant. And
so I went on to MySpace and created a site. And I said to the other
[band members], we should all start our own pages, if for no other
reason than to kind of run our own MySpace pages and link them to the
Cure, and at the same time take over control of the Cure MySpace site.
So, the Cure MySpace site is run by us, in much
the same way as the content of the Cure – the www.thecure.com
is run by us. It's really weird because I post on there
and my name comes up, and I'm posting in big capital letters and
people still think it's the record company. With the Cure MySpace
page; that's run by us. With the individual ones, I think Porl's
page is quite active, and Simon's as well. I don't think Jason
even knows he's got one. And mine, I think I've got five friends
at the moment because the Cure page, I think, is much more important.
The friends' request is run in a proper way. Mine is just to stop
anyone else from pretending they're me.
I suppose I've got a lot of younger nieces and
nephews who are on MySpace. I've always been very loathed
to go on because I fear that there's something slightly uncomfortable
about their Uncle Robert going on MySpace. So I like the idea
of me having a page so that no one can pretend to be me, but I don't
really think that I should get too heavily involved as an individual.
I think the band benefits from being on there. I think it's kind
of a good networking thing. But I think it's weird how many people
who are kind of my age are on there. It feels a little bit
kind of odd, I don't know. But if I say that, people will look
at me and say, "What do you mean odd?!" (laughs) It's like a
young person's community. That's what we got from it when we were
investigating it last spring. It's a great idea. It's
a fantastic idea. But it's not really for us. I mean our
network takes place in the real world, and we go to Japan and America
and meet people. You know, it seems rather strange for us to inhabit
this place where people haven't got the means or aren't old enough basically
to kind of be out there doing it for real, but hopefully … I think
the best thing about it is that it engenders this idea of a global community
in a very real sense. In that way, it's a good thing. You
know, the marketing side and the advertising side will eventually make
it uncool, and people will probably migrate to something else.
But the actual concept of it is such a great concept. We have to
be involved in it because we are a global band.
I know you said the label
wasn't really supportive of the double-album concept for your
next release. Considering the challenges in the record industry
lately, do you think the label tries to have more control over
what you do than they did in earlier years?
No, they don't really. If I wanted a double
disc; I would have it. They wouldn't stop it, but they just
are advising me that they don't think it's a good idea in commercial
terms, which is what they're there for. I mean they're
not questioning what I do artistically. They wouldn't dare.
Well, actually, they wouldn't want to because we are on the label
because they like what we do. There's no point in them
trying to second-guess what I do. That's why they signed us.
No, I think, I mean it's obvious to me, as well, that the trend is
away from albums. [The trend is in] the single downloads.
We're probably on the cusp of a complete paradigm
shift with regards to how people listen to music. I realize
that we are at the end of a particular era. We grew up with
punk and we've kind of gone through to the end of this album-based
era. I think it is changing, which is kind of sad in a way because
I like the idea of like an hour's worth of music by an artist, but then,
maybe that's just because that's what I'm used to. Many people
now just like listening to songs rather than albums. I think we
don't suffer as much as a lot of people because there's very little
filler on a Cure album. That's why it takes so long to do.
(laughs) People, generally, with our downloads on the stuff that
we've got, it's our albums that are downloaded. It's very, very
rare that people download single Cure tracks, when I've looked at the
[reports] that comes my way.
With the Festival DVD, we gave it to the label
and said, "We want this sold around the world at the lowest possible
price. We actually don't want to have any money from this
at all. We just want you to sell this double disc for nothing."
And they went with that. They were happy. Well, they
weren't actually that happy with it. But they understood the
concept of it.
It's always difficult to get the balance right
when you're dealing with people who essentially, at heart, want
to be commercially successful. That's what record companies
are. There are people at record companies who are really
good people, and who care greatly about the artists, and essentially
the music, and understand that is the reason they exist.
There are other people at the record companies who find the artists
irritating and the music kind of an annoying product, and wish that
they were selling something easier so they could make more money.
I've always thought that we control our own
destiny, but I've never been too involved with kind of the lacerations
of the record industry. It's kind of trite, really, and a lot
of the people are so stupid and it's just not worth it.
I guess one of the benefits of getting older
– there are a few, but not many (laughs) – is I find myself being
older than most of the people now who are telling me what would
be best, and kind of dry out my senses because they probably realize
that I've seen that and done it. It gives me a certain amount
of clout, I suppose.
Definitely. What
are your plans while you're in Miami?
We're staying for a week actually. It
will give us a nice break in the sun, and will do us good.
(Thanks Pietro,
Andreas, Marky, Star Star and Olga)
Seems I'm not the only one
who thought the Cure/Korn thing was hideous. Stereogum has this
summation of the show - "Robert Smith needs a new agent".
Fair warning for you fans in Italy, MTV Brand New will be airing
this thing tonight (March 8th) at 22:00.
Roger's album, 'The Truth In
Me', will get a Japanese release on March 24th via Hostess. Also, check Roger's website for news about his
latest remixes (including one for DNTEL!), and a video for the piano version
of 'This Grey Morning'.
New Porl collaboration:
"I don't remember
how I got to know it, but the music project "Black Eyeliner
Tears" (not a band because there only seems to be someone called
Stacy Paul Rugely behind it) lists Porl as an Additional Musician/Session
Member. From what I can read from the myspace profile (http://www.myspace.com/hesdeadnow)
there have been no releases yet."
(Thanks Pietro)
HispaCure wants your questions
for an interview with Lol:
"In April 2007,
hispaCure will have its 3rd anniversary as the official The
Cure Spanish fanclub, and we are going to celebrate it with an exclusive
interview with Lol Tolhurst!!
Lol was a co-founder member of The Cure,
back in 1976, and played drums in the debut album Three Imaginary
Boys (1979), as well as in the
masterpieces 17 Seconds (1980), Faith (1981)
and Pornography (1982). His drumming style was undoubtely
a watermark of the "Cure sound" in their
first era. After 1982, Lol moved to keyboards,
until he stopped being a cure member in 1989. Despite the polemic
that surrounded his departure
from The Cure and the legal battle that
followed in 1994 for the rights on the name of the band, Lol
is still on speaking terms with Robert Smith and lives as a proud
ex-member of The Cure, keeping in contact with Cure fans all over
the world. Since 1990, Lol has played in the band "Presence" and
is now involved with his actual project "Levinhurst", toghether with
his wife Cindy Levinson. He has kindly agreed to be interviewed by
hispaCure about his past and present, so now you have the chance
to send him questions:
Please send your questions to Lol Tolhurst
from now to March 15th (we accept questions in either English
or Spanish).
The questions must be send by e-mail to
the following address:
We wil make a selection of the questions
received and a reasonable number of them will be sent to Lol.
The interview wil be published in the hispaCure Forum and Blog
during april 2007, to celebrate our 3rd anniversary.
Update on the Cure playing
Bestival rumor - The website
has revealed that the Chemical Brothers and Beastie Boys ARE
headlining friday and saturday, as predicted by our source.
Still no announcement about the sunday headliner yet, but Rob
Da Bank had this to say:
" As for the Sunday headliner, well
you'll just have to wait but it'll be worth it (and yes I do
know who it is!)"
So I guess we'll
have to wait a bit longer for confirmation or denial. But
it IS encouraging that 2/3rds of the rumor has proven to be
true. Check the Bestival website
for more info on tickets and other acts that have been announced.
Keep forgetting to post this
- Mark Saunders has posted 2 unreleased Cure tracks on his website. One is a 'Pictures
of You' remix from 2003, and the other is 'Ching Chang Chong'
from 1997. 'Ching' eventually evolved into 'Spilt Milk', one
of the bonus tracks from Bloodflowers. To hear them (and
other tracks), go to Mark's website, click
on works and scroll to the track you want to hear. And what's with
that "To Be Released" 5.1 mix of 'Pictures' that is listed? Is there
a plan to release a 5.1 mix of the 'Disintegration' album? Please,
please, please...
(Thanks Andreas)
March 1st
Darrell Ives
died of an apparent heart attack on Feb. 16th in Hong
Kong, while doing security for Roger Waters. For those who
don't know, Darrell was head of security for The Cure on the
Bloodflowers promo shows and the Dream Tour. He also worked security
for many Depeche Mode tours, and for other artists as well. But
above all, Darrell was one hell of a nice guy. Sincerest condolences
to his family and friends.