The Cure live in Kansas City, Mo. (May 19th, 2008)
4Tour World Tour 2007 - 08
May 19th, 2008 - Kansas
City, Mo. (Starlight Theatre)
Underneath the Stars, Pictures of You, A Night Like This, The Walk,
End of the World, Lovesong, To Wish Impossible Things, Lullaby, Hot Hot
Hot, The Only One, From the Edge of the Deep Green Sea, A Strange Day,
Push, Friday I'm In Love, Inbetween Days, Just Like Heaven,
Primary, Shake Dog Shake, Never Enough, The Perfect Boy, Wrong
Number, One Hundred Years, Baby Rag Dog Book
1st Encore: If Only Tonight We Could Sleep, The Kiss
2nd encore: Boys Don't Cry, Jumping Someone Else's Train, Grinding Halt,
10:15 Saturday Night, Killing An Arab.
Total = 30 songs.
Show notes:
65DOS started at 7:03 / ended at 7:33
Cure started at 8:11 / main set ended at 10:03.
Show over at 10:39.
Robert - "I was told not to sing tonight"
Notes from Eduardo - "Robert suffering with his voice. Just took a full
spoon of something."
"Really struggling with his voice on Wrong Number, missing lyrics"
Robert at end of set - "I apologize for my voice"
(Thanks to Eduardo for the live setlist and notes, to J.@ Curefans.com
for the corrections and to Burnt for the ticket scan)
Here are some thoughts on The Cure show last night.
First let me say that being in the "pushing 40 club" that I've seen the
Cure many times and in an odd way this was a combined worst and best show.
More on that later.
Before the show started I had an opportunity to look at the set list in
its entirety. It was really long and it had several song titles on it that
were new, not just new as in they have been playing them already even though
they haven’t been released yet. I mean new, new, not played on this tour so
far. The last song of the main set for example had a ridiculously long title.
It almost looked like a joke. I'm sorry I can't remember what it was, but
it had something to do with rock (I think) in the title. As people have already
reported, it is very rocking. It’s harsh, but not like The Kiss. It’s more
in line with Primary where it’s straightforward rock.
The new song that people are calling, “Underneath the Stars” - When the
band took the stage I thought immediately that it would be a different song
than they have been opening with so far. There were no chimes or other sounds.
It was very subdued. Jason was the first to get on stage and he triggered
something that caused a rushing of waves to come out of the PA system. As
the waves broke and lulled and excited the crowd at the same time, the rest
of the band slowly came on stage.
Once they were all on and strapped in they gathered around the drum kit.
At that point, Jason triggered something else that started the song and
he clicked off as well. There were some timing issues, as it sounded like
the 4 of them were playing at different tempos. What I personally think
happened is that the triggered effect was at one tempo, Jason was at another,
and Robert, Simon, and Porl split the difference. One of them went with the
effect in hopes that everyone would go that way, and the others went with
Jason. It sounded a bit bumbled for about 10 seconds or so and then it worked
itself out.
What came out of the PA system was a beautiful song that I wish I had the
vocabulary to properly describe. The song lasted about 7 minutes and all
that I can say is that it is going to easily become a fan favorite for years
to come. It sounds light, bright, and sparkly but it has the same sadness
that we’ve all grown accustomed to. It has a very long intro with Simon holding
things down as usual, and after about a minute, Robert and Porl come in
and there is a lengthy part from Robert that it not quite a solo, but a
beautiful bit of groundwork for the lyrics and the remainder of the song.
I won’t go on about it much more, but it was beautiful and I hope to hear
it again soon. Every minute that passes by, I forget just a little bit more
it. For those of you still waiting, it’s worth the wait.
At this point, no one can really tell that his voice is gone. I just figured
he was singing in a lower register like he does sometimes.
Pictures of You- The bass was ridiculously loud. If you watch Deathstar461’s
video you can hear for yourself. That was pretty much all you could hear.
Once Robert begins to sing, it’s very obvious that his voice is in trouble.
He tried as best as he could though.
Right after this song it’s where he told us about his voice. Since people
have already commented on this I won’t any further, but I have to say that
I was a bit nervous because 2 summers ago Depeche Mode came to the same
venue and we got about 45 minutes of music before Dave Gahan called it quits.
This caused for an ugly scene. While I have nothing but the utmost respect
and admiration for Robert Smith, I have to admit that I was nervous that
the same thing might happen. This man is a trooper though. He continued to
play and gave us what he could, which was everything considering how he felt.
That makes me respect him all the more. Lesser people would have played just
a few songs and called it a night. Most of them don’t really care; they would
just take the money and run. That’s what Depeche Mode did.
A Night Like This – Sounded really good. Robert basically talked instead
of sang, but that’s ok. Porl sounded great on the solo.
The Walk – I was a bit disinterested in hearing this live, but I have to
admit it has a new life to it. It actually sounded ”tough”. It was a pleasant
surprise.
To Wish Impossible Things – Simply beautiful. I know they aren’t playing
this one much on the tour. It was wonderful.
Lullaby - For those of you who are worried, the keyboards are not missed
here. It sounds fine without them.
Hot Hot Hot – On the flipside, the keyboard are missed here in some places.
Mainly towards the end. I have to say though, this song rocked. Maybe the
best way to approach it is like a new version of the song with the same
lyrics.
The Only One – The guitar parts were far too low. I think they make the
song and what I could hear was mainly bass, which was par for the course for
most of the evening. Robert was really struggling.
From the Edge of the Deep Green Sea – A personal favorite, and I think
for most people. Here it was evident that he was in rough shape. He had
to speak the words rather than wail them away as they normally are done.
Rather than “NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER LET ME GO SHE SAID.”
It was, never never let me go she said. Everything was spoken and I felt
really bad for him. There is a reason that they have played this song on
every tour since Wish. I’m sure he likes this song a lot and he always gives
it his all. Tonight was no exception, though his all was far short of what
he normally has to give.
A Strange Day – I was very happy to hear this song. Musically it sounded
great. There were no elongated parts of ,”A straaaaaaaaaaange day,” simply,
,”a – strange – day.” I think it was all he could do to get the words out
as punctuated as possible.
Just Like Heaven – There was some sort of issue at the beginning of the
song. Another timing issue. It was flubbed up for about 5 seconds or so. It
sounded really bad.
Wrong Number – Largely instrumental.
One Hundred Years – Sounded fierce, but there was no extended ending as
usual. I think at this point he was struggling so much that they were trying
to get to the end of the show.
New Song – Very rockin’. As I said in the beginning, it’s pretty straightforward.
It reminded me a bit of Primary or possibly Cut, just without the wah- pedal.
1st Encore: If Only Tonight We Could Sleep – There is a video of what he
said here to the crowd so I won’t go into it, but the song was incredible
as always.
The Kiss – Quite possibly the most vicous version of it I have ever heard.
I think he was taking his frustrations out on his guitar. Towards the end
of the song when they are just rocking out, neither Robert’s, Porl’s or
Simon’s feet were moving. It was like they were cemented to the stage and
just locked in and in a trance. It was that fierce.
The final encore was good and I knew that it would be it because I think
Robert just mentally said screw it on Killing an Arab and just went for
broke on his voice and really pushed it. After the song was over, the lights
stayed down and I think everyone hoped that they would come back out (there
was a 3rd encore scheduled for tonight) but since he went to both sides of
the stage to see the crowd I knew that it was over. As he left the stage
he was clutching his throat as he did every time he previously left the stage.
All in all it was a great show. It was really something special to see
how Robert gave it his all despite the fact that his voice was shot. There
is a reason why he has been so successful for as long as he has been and
that’s because he knows that the fans are what allow him to continue to
do what he does. After the show was over I talked to one of the guys that
worked the sound board. he had a couple of CD's that were labeled as tonight's
show. When I asked him about them he said, "yeah, that was really bad, but
Robert wants to hear all of the shows. I have a feeling he won't be releasing
this one!" So there is ahope for a live cd since they are recording every
show. Keep your fingers crossed.
Having said all of that, I would like to address all fans of The Cure:
I know that people have been disgruntled about the delay of the new record
and the postponement of the tour. I say this with the utmost respect to everyone
who is a fan of the Cure. Please cut him some slack. Remember why you love
him and the music that he has provided for us over these many years that
we love so much. There aren’t many marriages that last 30 years, let alone
a band that has provided the soundtrack for our lives. Most bands won’t give
you a 3 hour long set. Most bands don’t care enough about their fans enough
to endure an illness and play despite contrary medical advice. For those
of you seeing him in Colorado, try to remember that he could have easily
cancelled the show so that he can recover. He isn’t doing that even though
he should. He’s going to end up completely blowing out his voice and he’s
doing that for all of us.
I have a feeling that after the new album comes out that they will tour
again in support of it. Until then I’ll have my fond memories of the best/worst
Cure show I have ever seen.
- Frank
Wow - what a great venue the Starlight Theater
is - perfect for a Cure show. We had great seats - best view we have
ever had for a Cure concert. We had to check twice to see if the usher
had put us in the right spot. This was the 9th Cure show for me - second
for my wife and we had a couple of friends with us that we Cure concert
virgins.
I must say that even though Robert was suffering with his voice due
to his cold/flu thing - the band sounded perfect!!! I don't think i
have ever seen them so tight. The sound at the Starlight Theater was
great. Simon's bass and the drums from Jason were fantastic. My friend
commented that she didn't know Robert was such a great guitarist.
I have to say that Robert is a trooper. He said his doctor told him
not to sing tonight. But he did not want to disappoint all the fans
that had come a long way to see them play. He said that this must be
the first time that a lot of us had seen them live and that sucks,
but promised to be back with "a much sweeter sounding voice the next
time" I think they enjoyed playing at Starlight - they always seem
to like the outdoor venues.
I enjoyed listening to the new songs, even though I obviously didn't
know a couple of them at all. They sounded great and I look forward
to hearing them on the new album.
Songs that blew me away were: Shake Dog Shake, The Kiss (brought back
memories from the Kissing Tour in '87 at Wembley Arena) One Hundred
Years, Push!!!, Never Enough (sounded very fresh - Simon's bass playing
was awesome!!) If Only Tonight We Could Sleep, Jumping Someone Else's
Train (never seen them play this live before).
Ok - so the no keyboard thing. It did not make a difference for me at
all having no keyboards. In fact, as other people have said, I think
it made them sound more alive and fresh. They are all such good musicians,
they just powered away all night.
Comments from our Cure virgins: They did not notice Robert's voice
problems (although I kept telling them that they would have been blown
away with his voice if he was well). They danced the night away and
had a great time. One said after, "what have I been missing all these
years, I wish I had listened to them more." "They played brilliantly
together - great sound" was another comment. "I have to admit, they
are good." was another.
Fantastic show guys!! Appreciate it Robert for not canceling the
show. Only you guys could pull it off.
Can't wait to see them again at the Red Rocks show (maybe see them
play Faith at this great venue!!!) and myself and my wife hope that
Robert gets some rest and gets back to that powerful voice we all
know and love.
- Steve
Just a few notes about the show last night that
I wanted to share with you.
End of Pictures Of You - Robert - "I am sorry for my voice, I should not
even be out here and almost canceled, but we have come all this way and I
don't want to disappoint you. I hope that some how it will all come together
like fucking magic."
End of Lullaby - Robert - "I am going to need your help tonight."
End of The Only One - Robert "You guys are not helping me out very much,
perhaps if we play something you like it will be different, which is the
way it fucking should be."
End of Perfect Boy - Robert - "Again I am very sorry about my voice, when
we come back my voice will be much sweeter, I promise."
Before the first song of encore - Robert - "I went to the doctor this
morning" and the doctor said "NO! You can't go out there, you can't sing
tonight" and I was like "Of course I can't fucking sing tonight, but we can
still play the music and that's something and something is better than nothing.So
we are going to play a few songs with very few words."
I also noticed that the encore songs were changed. At the end of the main
set the crew tore up the setlist and taped down new ones. On the original
set list was 3IB and a third encore, none of which happened. It was still
an amazing night and one to remember.
- Chris
Starlight is a great venue, and looked packed;
lots of people standing in the back the whole night. I really like
both of the new songs, I just wish I could have made out any of the lyrics.
Robert really pushed his voice for the opening song, but it was obvious from
the first line that he sounded awful. He messed up a lot of the lyrics in
POY, probably distracted by how much his throat hurt. Then came the
first apology of the night. He made some reference that I didn't quite
catch, something like "just pretend it's (someone with a low and scratchy
voice, I assume) covers the Cure tonight". To Wish Impossible Things
was a nice surprise and change of pace, but otherwise, a pretty standard setlist.
The second new song blew me away, a rather heavy, hard rock song, and the
band was very much into it. They really do sound great live as a 4-piece.
Simon's bass was a bit too loud from my viewpoint, kinda drowned out some
of Porl's guitar, but the parts I did hear reminded me of how great of a
guitarist he really is. Doing some crazy things to play the keyboard
parts, and I didn't miss them at all.
Robert spoke onstage more than I've ever seen. At the beginning
of the first encore, he apologized again for his voice, and said something
to the extent of "I swear, in 30 years of singing I've never had anything
like this. The doctor told me not to play tonight cause I can't sing.
I know I can't fucking sing! But all these people came out tonight,
and the alternative is having no show at all, so I figured you wanted us
to play! <big applause> ...I promise you that next time around my voice
will sound much sweeter <more applause>...look at the bright side,
I could have always sounded like this..."
You could tell that Robert was really pushing his voice in the "old school"
encore, like he felt terrible that we didn't get the best Cure show ever.
A lot of bands would have canceled under these circumstances, and the fact
that he struggled through it reminded me of how much Robert does care about
us and his music. Lots of disappointment when the lights came on at
10:40, but I think everyone understood. All in all, a great show despite
the vocal issues; definitely made my trip from St. Louis worthwhile.
And Robert mentioning a "next time" is always a good sign!
- Casey
The Starlight venue is fantastic (especially for
Kansas City!) Nice outdoor stage, pretty surrounding architecture, fountains,
archways, etc. combine that with the beautifully mild weather and you've
got a very comfortable environment in which to see the show.
65 Days of Static were pretty good, somewhat derivative of Mogwai,
but still nice, the crowd seemed to enjoy them and they seemed into their
set.
Now, we all know Robert was sick but boy I did not expect him to
sound this bad! He starts off with a bit of energy but that drains by around
the third song and he starts incoherently mumbling into the mic. Even though
I doubt anyone understands what he says they cheer anyway… go figure. He never
really hit a single high-note throughout the entire evening.
The acoustics and general "sound" of the venue were pretty good overall
but when the Cure played it seemed Robert's guitar and mic were mixed far
lower than any of the other components. This was especially noticeable because
he wasn't really singing, more like talking and running out of breath continuously.
He did apologize almost right after the first song by saying "I apologize
if this is the first time you've been to see us, and I suspect it is for
most of you, as I can't sing tonight" then he said something about if we knew
the words to sing with/for him. Then after another couple songs he mumbled
a long string of something accentuated with quite a few "fucks"…
Despite my slight personal disappointment with the set list (I wanted
the one which started with "Open") I can understand why we got it; it's comprised
of the more mellow songs and tracks with a larger percentage of them being
more rooted in the instrumental intros and solos than vocal hooks and melodies.
Then of course all the older songs, which don't really require signing anyway…
regardless there were still quite a few stand out performances, "A Night
Like This" and "From the Edge of the Deep Green Sea" were incredible as was
"A Strange Day" (my least favorite cut from Pornography, so a very pleasant
surprise)and "The Kiss" was the most brutal sounding thing I've ever heard
the Cure play. Of course we also got a few new songs which sounded pretty
good. Overall for as sick and as bad as Robert sounded the band still sounded
really good, so it was still a solid performance overall.
About halfway through the main set though Robert really started having
trouble with his voice and sounded like he was falling asleep while talking.
He was almost inaudible during large portions of songs and sometimes just
flat out stopped singing for a few seconds.
After the main set was over the band took a short break and when they
returned for the first encore Robert spoke pretty lengthily and surprisingly
you could actually understand what he was saying; he was annunciating! He
said (and I'm paraphrasing, but this is pretty damn near verbatim) "I feel
really horrible tonight, in my thirty years of signing I have never felt
this bad while on stage. The doctor told me I shouldn't be here tonight.
He told me I couldn't sing, and I said, I know I can't sing but you all
come here and do all of this and everyone puts so much into it, then you
have to just play the fucking songs. (HUGE cheers from the crowd) So I apologize
but it's about you, the fans and the music" Then they started into the first
encore of the night.
So, good show, but disappointing due to Robert's illness, but I can't
be upset, I have to give the man major credit for muscling through the entire
show even though it was obvious he felt like total shit. He didn't give up
and he still gave us a solid two plus hours of great music. Thank you Robert!
- Surrealist Gesture
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